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Post by glrogers67 on Sept 25, 2016 6:23:16 GMT
Welcome!! You have entered a space where all people are invited to gather to discuss matters of Spirituality, in mutual respect and friendliness: "Considering...Spirituality." Here, the focus is on personal spirituality and not dogma. We welcome with open arms people from any, all, and no religious/faith backgrounds, and those who practice spirituality on their own, to join us for a discussion centered on a higher consciousness. Each day there will be a quote, question, or discussion prompt presented for all to ponder and respond to.
**In maintaining an atmosphere of comfort and trust, we do not allow proselytizing (the effort of trying to convert others) or the denigrating of the religions and viewpoints of others. We also avoid bringing up topics such as politics, hot button social issues, or anything that can be considered divisive**
As this was a WW board, we also discuss our personal wellness, including our weight management program. We share our struggles and our triumphs regarding such as well as discuss things like family, friends, jobs, hobbies, outside interests, etc... We strive to build each other up with loving support in a positive manner. Let us not ever tear one another down in any way, shape or form.
Regular thread starters for the time being are:
Sunday, Monday, Tuesday: Gary
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday: Holly
Yet if anyone is so inclined, please feel free to start a new thread by beginning with the title: "Considering....(topic -q/q)", post this introduction (by way of copy & paste) then follow that with a post putting forth a question and/or quote (with or without some explanation) for us to ponder today. The topic can be inspired by your personal faith, but please do remember that anyone from other spiritual paths should be able to answer it.
Shalom, Love & Light, Blessed Be, Namaste...
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Post by glrogers67 on Sept 25, 2016 6:33:07 GMT
The date September 22 which occurred this week has great significance in my life and in the LDS church, but I didn't know how great until I read an article in LDS Living e-magazine titled "Why Did Moroni deliver the plates on September 22?" First September 22 is my first granddaughter's birthday and she just turned 18. Second it is the anniversary of my gf's baptism into the LDS church. Here are some excerpts I found interesting:
The emergence of the Book of Mormon from its hiding place began on September 21, 1823. That night, the angel Moroni appeared to a young Joseph Smith, told him that “God had a work for [him] to do” (Joseph Smith—History 1:33). That work would involve translating “a book deposited, written upon gold plates, giving an account of the former inhabitants of this continent”—what we know today as the Book of Mormon (v. 34).
The next day, on September 22, Joseph went to the hill and “made an attempt to take [the plates] out” but was forbidden by Moroni, who reminded him that “the time for bringing them forth had not yet arrived.” Joseph would have to wait “until four years from that time” but was to “come to that place precisely in one year from that time” and to return each year “until the time should come for obtaining the plates” (Joseph Smith—History 1:53).
Moroni’s annual visits occurred generally around the time of the Israelite harvest festival season.1 The initial visit on September 21 in 1823 coincided with that year’s celebration of the Feast of Tabernacles. In 1824, September 22 was the eve of the Jewish New Year (Rosh Hashanah) and the beginning of the fall festivals. In 1825, September 22 was precisely Yom Kippur (the Day of Atonement). In 1827, when Moroni finally delivered the plates to Joseph (Joseph Smith—History 1:59), his timing on September 22 coincided exactly with Rosh Hashanah, also known as the Feast of Trumpets.2
Today's q/q: Are there dates in your life that correspond with important dates in history? What do you think of the significance of delivering the gold plates from which the Book of Mormon was translated on a date so significant to Jewish history?
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Post by glrogers67 on Sept 25, 2016 6:37:55 GMT
Here's a little more from the article I found most interesting:
No doubt many likely reasons can be suggested for the timing of Moroni’s visits to Joseph Smith each year in late September and also for his particular insistence that Joseph wait four years before recovering the plates. For example, that waiting period allowed Joseph Smith time to mature a bit more, to be married, and to be periodically instructed by Moroni.
But perhaps most striking of all, one further reason could have been so that his instructions would closely coincide with the sacred Israelite autumn festival season, with him delivering the plates right on Rosh Hashanah. The number of meaningful ways in which the messages and purposes of the Book of Mormon coincide with the themes of Rosh Hashanah and the Jewish high holy days suggest that this timing was no coincidence, but that Moroni had carefully and deliberately scheduled his meaningful visits. For these reasons, there was no better day on which to commence the coming forth of the Book of Mormon than Rosh Hashanah, September 22, 1827.
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Post by hollygail on Sept 25, 2016 11:17:48 GMT
My sister was born on Rosh haShanah (New Year; literally, "rosh" means "head," the prefix "ha-" means "the," and "shanah" means "year," so "Rosh haShanah" is the "head of the year"), September 22, in the year she was born. It occurs on the first day of the Hebrew month of Tishrei (we are currently nearing the end of the month of Elul; last night was S'lichot, which is the plural form of the word; "penitential prayers" may be the best phrase to describe what the word signifies, because it doesn't translate literally from Hebrew into English. We are getting ready (as we have been since the first of Elul, Saturday, Sept. 3 at sundown) for the High Holy Days which begin with Rosh haShanah, continue through Yom Kippur ten days later; five days after that begin Sukkot (another plural word that can be translated as "booths" or "huts" and refers to temporary dwellings, like the ones our ancestors constructed during the 40 years trek through the wilderness) which celebrates the fall harvest (there is scholarly work that indicates that the American Thanksgiving holiday is based on the Jewish holiday of Sukkot).
Off the top of my rosh (head), I can't think of historical dates that other important things happened on the Jewish calendar during these dates. (Okay, the Yom Kippur War in the modern State of Israel, during my own lifetime, but I was looking for historical happenings from before I was born.)
[I just googled the Yom Kippur War and here's a very brief excerpt:
"... On October 6, 1973–Yom Kippur, the holiest day in the Jewish calendar–Egypt and Syria opened a coordinated surprise attack against Israel. The equivalent of the total forces of NATO in Europe were mobilized on Israel’s borders. On the Golan Heights, approximately 180 Israeli tanks faced an onslaught of 1,400 Syrian tanks. Along the Suez Canal, fewer than 500 Israeli defenders were attacked by 80,000 Egyptians.
At least nine Arab states, including four non-Middle Eastern nations, actively aided the Egyptian-Syrian war effort..."]
I have no opinion regarding the LDS history regarding the date. For me, personally, Sept. 22 has always meant my sister's birthday.
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